I don’t understand the appeal of men doing really lavish romantic gestures for you. Like romantic gestures, sure. Big, fancy, pulled a lot strings, spent a lot money, and that’s supposed to be 99% of the appeal ones? Eh.
Like when Chris does that whole drive-in movie thing for Lorelai. I’m like ‘eh’. I just don’t get the appeal. I mean this or building your girlfriend a car or proposing to her with a thousand inconvenient yellow daisies or throwing her a felon party. Just … eh.
Rory and Jess in 3x19 Keg! Max!
Could these two be any more adorable?
Gilmore Girls | 4.21 - Last Week Fights, This Week Tights
(I’m gonna assume Literati, not Jiterati? =P)
Luke/Lorelai and Jess/Rory, here we go!
- Who cooks: Luke and Jess, definitely. That’s canon lol.
- Who does the laundry and other chores: Lorelai and Luke together, because otherwise Lorelai takes too long (she gets distracted, and hates reading the care tags) and Luke gets annoyed (he separates things, even though he doesn’t have too much variety of clothing). Rory does the laundry for her and Jess, because she loves the routine (And Jess just keeps the coffee and snacks and commentary coming, unless she does it while he’s working)
- How many children do they have: Luke and Lorelai have one together, so 3 total. Jess and Rory are still discussing it, but she wants two, a boy and a girl, and he’s not sure if one can plan for that, but although parenthood scares him, he’s getting excited about it
- Who’s more dominate: Lorelai, Jess
- Favorite nonsexual activity: Lorelai has actually come to enjoy fishing with Luke, because she and luke have long conversations and the sunrise she once hated is actually really pretty. Jess and Rory love to curl up and read together, sometimes they’ll read to each other, sometimes they’ll just read silently quoting the book to each other.
- Their favorite place to be together: L/L love to be in their house, tucked away from the world for a minute. Rory loves going with Jess to work, because of that new book smell and seeing him be all professional. And Jess thinks work is so much nicer when she’s there, and the light in her eyes makes him not even care about hiding his smile.
- Any traditions: Hm…I’m not sure about Luke and Lorelai. Jess and Rory will every couple of months, when their schedules line up, will hop on the first bus that arrives and ride it until they agree on a stop. Then they’ll spend the day or weekend there
- Their “song”: JavaJunkie: Hm…Saved the Best for Last by Vanessa Williams maybe? And Literati: you know the answer, lol. “I’m Yours” by the Script.
- What they do for each other on holidays: Luke makes the Christmas Meal, and Lorelai decorates the diner (which Luke “hates” but he’ll smiles when no one is looking). Jess will be on his best behavior with all of Rory’s family throughout the holidays, but Christmas Eve is their time. They’ll go for a walk in the snow (she’ll tease him about beheaded snowmen, he’ll tug on her scarf until she kisses him) and then he’ll make her hot chocolate from scratch and she’ll give him extra marshmallows
- Where did they go for their honeymoon: Luke and Lorelai went to a bed and breakfast in Small Town, USA for the first week. The second week Lorelai convinced him to go with her to a Casino. They won a good bit of money due to their teamwork. Jess and Rory went to Chicago.
- Where did they first meet: haha, Luke’s Diner, Rory’s House
- Any pets: Luke and Lorelai have had a series of dogs over the years, and one random bird that made it’s home in their rafters and Lorelai dubbed it Crosby and insisted Luke build it a proper home. Jess and Rory adopted a cat that they found outside in the rain.
- What do they fight over: Luke and Lorelai bicker over everything, but they rarely fight. Jess and Rory have heated arguments over finances at times, but they cool off and solve it.
- Do they go on vacations, if so where: Lorelai and Luke rarely vacation, being new parents and both owning their own business, but Jess and Rory try to as much as possible. They’ll try to time their away trips for business together and take a few hours together.
Send me a ship and I’ll answer these for them!
Just feel like reblogging this all over again, because I stumbled across it and love it so much!
Oh, look, turns around and shames the other girl for being a virgin by calling her “emotionally stunted”
Good fucking job
And I still stand by what I said about this line. It may have been poorly worded but I don’t think Lorelai meant it as Paris being bad for having sex and Rory being good for not. I think she was expressing relief at Rory’s admission that she had never been peer or otherwise pressured into having sex before she was ready, since Paris was wondering why she hadn’t because sleeping with your boyfriend is obviously inevitable. I think this interpretation holds up too, when Rory does go to her mom an tells her she’s personally ready to think about having sex with Jess, Lorelai wholly and completely accepts this. (And that on top of the fact she hates Jess with every fiber of her being!) I just think it was a very poorly worded line, and yes possibly would have benefitted by taking it out, but then I think you miss expressing something very key to Lorelai’s character - whether that is a positive aspect or not
Rory was emotionally stunted. Not for being a virgin, but she was very emotionally stunted as a general rule. She couldn’t handle rejection or failure at all, where when she wasn’t good enough, she had breakdowns repeatedly. Her way of dealing with Dean breaking up with her was to basically shut down and pretend everything was okay. Same thing with when she slept with Dean - rather than deal with the consequences, and while I do understand having sex for the first time can be very emotional, she basically refused to listen to her mother at all. Her missing the test at Chilton, her failing a paper at Yale, her being told she wasn’t good enough by Mitchum and all the subsequent meltdowns she had are examples of how she was emotionally stunted.
Lorelai, I’m sure, was plenty worried about Rory having sex since Lorelai herself had gotten pregnant at 16, although I do appreciate the interpretation that Lorelai was glad that Rory hadn’t had sex due to feeling pressured or expected to - that’s the first time I’ve thought of it that way.
But as for the being emotionally stunted, there is a lot of merit to that. Lorelai was also emotionally stunted in a lot of ways, and Rory learned those habits from Lorelai.
I agree that Rory is/was emotionally stunted in a lot of ways. But it seemed as if the confessor was calling her emotionally stunted specifically in regards to (having or not having) sex.
I also agree that Lorelai was very concerned with Rory having sex, more than she probably should have been, because of her personal background. And I think this is an understandable aspect of her character and one that isn’t a very positive aspect, but nevertheless doesn’t need to be erased or even necessarily “corrected” just because it is negative. I think viewers should be content with passing their own judgements and making up their own minds. Just because Lorelai is a ‘cool mom’ character that others might look up to doesn’t mean the writers have an obligation to make her always express the socially correct perspective. She’s a complete character and sometimes she will be wrong. People will have to parse that on their own as it applies to their real world.
However, I also still believe however concerned Lorelai was about Rory having sex it wasn’t enough to so blatantly sex-shame her or one of her friends, and that in the end this was a poorly written line attempting to express a different sentiment. I’m glad you appreciate the interpretation.
“I just think it was a very poorly worded line, and yes possibly would have benefitted by taking it out, but then I think you miss expressing something very key to Lorelai’s character - whether that is a positive aspect or not”
“Just because Lorelai is a ‘cool mom’ character that others might look up to doesn’t mean the writers have an obligation to make her always express the socially correct perspective.”
→ Gilmore Girls S06E13, Friday Night’s Alright for Fighting
- Grandma said she was into this?
- Well, you know, she didn’t say it like that, but she said,
Oh! Dinner with Rory! How delightful! Well, spit-spot. Alert the corgis.
First time through the series I loved Dean blindly and hated Jess on principle. I continued to love Dean until he cheated on his wife. I continued to hate Jess until he walked through the elder Gilmore’s gate at the exact point Rory desperately needed him…though never in a million years (at that point) would I have guessed that HE was what she needed. By the end of that episode, my opinion of Jess Mariano did a complete 180º (as my opinion of Dean had done with the aforementioned episode).
What I came to realize, when rewatching (and rewatching and rewatching) the series, was that my very blind loyalty to Dean had been the only thing that had made me dislike Jess…and, to be honest…the only thing that had made me ignore the red flags and problems with Dean.
Dean-da-Dean-Dean-Dean… The boy dumped Rory 3 times, and every time, he claimed that she dumped him. On several occasions, his temper made Rory flinch and cower…subtly enough that I didn’t see it as problematic the first time through…but, enough that Rory was *panicked* that he might find out she’d kissed someone else while they were broken up, that he might find out she’d accidentally lost the bracelet he made for her, and when she had to tell him what happened to the car. Any other guy came *near* her, and he was ready to fly into a rage, either yelling at her or wanting to beat the guy up. Any time he wasn’t her #1 priority, that wasn’t okay. I’m not exaggerating. I’m really not. I came from the position of thinking he was the ideal boyfriend. And wound up watching him flipping out and yelling at his wife: “You have absolutely no respect for me at all! That’s just obvious!” (etc., etc.) because she DARED to answer. his. phone. when he’d just gone and slept with another woman …and realizing that…it actually fit into the pattern he’d been showing since season 1.
Now, Jess…at the end of my first watch-through, I thought I only liked in his “all-grown-up” incarnation. As a teenager, he was a jerk, a brat, a <insert synonyms here>… But, the more I watched, the more I realized he was what you got when you took a mini-Luke Danes, added a love of literature and music, and (forgive me because I love Luke more than almost any fictional character in the universe) a few IQ points, threw in a heavy dollop of Lorelai Gilmore, and then put him through a childhood and early adolescence of definite neglect, possible abuse, and a long string of “male role models” who would rob you blind and stab you in the back as soon as look at you. The amazing part is that the Luke Danes qualities made it through all of that intact. But, please forgive the guy for being a little rough around the edges. You would be too. I would be too. Anybody would be too. Plus…one of the patented Danes attributes he seems to have inherited is being a little rough around the edges. Like Luke…and Luke’s dad…and his Uncle Louie. If he was a “people person,” you’d kind of have to wonder if he was adopted.
Through his defense mechanisms and Danesness (which includes the tendency to hide their light under a bushel), it can be tricky to see his good qualities, but the boy was:
Hardworking - Even if he skipped school a lot, school + a part time job + a full time job is anything but a slacker…and there’s the fact that the boss at his other job called him his best and most reliable worker).
Intelligent - Rory: “You know you’re smarter than most everybody at your school. It takes you like five minutes to finish a book. You read everything, you remember everything, you could ace those classes easily.”
Loyal and Unselfish - Just consider for a moment that he came back to a town that hated him and wanted to think the absolute worst of him, and agreed to—in front of this entire town—walk his mother down the aisle…his mother who by her own admission had never been sober for a single one of her many weddings. He agreed to walk a woman down the aisle who would probably be stumbling drunk or high as a kite, showing all of Stars Hollow: this is my mother. He did this because—he knew how much it meant to Luke.———-When he told Rory: “This isn’t you!” “Why did you drop out of YALE?” etc., he knew that all of this was the last thing she wanted to hear. He knew that it could easily cost him not only any future chance at a romantic relationship, but any possibility of friendship. But, he also knew that she needed to hear it from someone. And he was a true enough friend to tell it like it was.———When he told her: “If it makes you feel better, you could always tell him that we did something,” he was giving her permission to use him—not his body, but his reputation, his dignity, smearing all over anything they’d ever had together, and risking the possibility of a jealous boyfriend coming to exact revenge…so that she could “feel better”…so that she could mitigate a painful situation.———I could go on for paragraphs on “Loyal and Unselfish,” but this is turning into a ridiculously long essay as it is.
Mild and Self-Controlled - When Dean threatened him, he swallowed it down. When Logan goaded him, he walked away. The only time he retaliated was when he was physically attacked. Even when he was being threatened by Dean behind her back, Jess didn’t object to Rory trusting Dean while insisting he was a liar (black eye incident). When Rory and Dean were spending time together again, all he asked was that she mention it to him.
Again, this is getting ridiculously long, so I’ll stop itemizing and showing examples for specific qualities, but just mention the fact that when he found out people were picking on Luke and Luke was sticking up for him, he toned town his antics and fixed his toaster as a demonstration of appreciation (and if you take the time to notice, that toaster is broken, with Luke trying to fix it throughout the series whenever Jess isn’t there…but that it’s always working when he IS there…so I’m pretty sure that wasn’t a one-time thing). ——After the accident, he took responsibility, calling the ambulance, talking to the police, etc. and I have little doubt he would have stayed with Rory if she’d let him (if Rory wouldn’t let Dean come with her to face Lorelai after staying out all night there’s no way she would have let Jess stay under those circumstances). “I made sure she was okay” wasn’t something he even *had* to tell Luke. Luke knew his nephew. He would always “make sure she was okay.” He was one of the few people, not just to get along with Paris, but to genuinely treat her like a human being.
Actually going to stop now. There’s so much more. But, I’ll leave it by saying… I truly believe that the portrayals of Jess and Dean were a deliberate: let’s challenge your preconceptions…sometimes there’s more to people than meets the eye.